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The video capture capability of Creator 2011 Pro appears to be incapable of capturing video from external hardware digitizers that rely on the Windows embedded drivers. The Canopus ADVC line of digitizing products offer a fast simple ripping source for existing NTSC content from a variety of sources. I am using an ADVC-110. A video stream can be easily captured via Firewire into Windows MovieMaker, Adobe products or one of several simple Open Source tools. The device appears (without drivers) as a live digital video feed. Creator 2011 Pro can see the device but cannot capture the feed.
It registers errors, i.e. No video or audio drivers exist for this device. Duh, it's the Windows embedded driver folks. Windows MovieMaker is not much of a video editor but if Creator 2011 Pro (yet!) can't capture the source, why bother?
Jim: Thanks for your response. Roxio2011 video capture doesn't know how to capture a stream from a default Windows driver???? This isn't about Firewire and there are no Canopus drivers. The Canopus device is an 'AVC Compliant DV Device' as the video capture utility in Roxio2011 correctly identifies it. The only required driver on Windows (as for any AVC compliant device) is the default Windows 7 AVC/Tape Recorder/Player driver, similar to previous versions including Vista and XP. The driver is an official Windows component (with variations) on all recent Windows OSs.
See Want to see something that works correctly? Look at WinDV or VirtualDub. These little Open Source apps are more like dev tools but what they lack in UI is more than made up for in the veracity of the code. The only drawback of the Open Source approach is the 2GB file size limitation, an artifact of Linux. All I want is a decent capture interface that can write a high-quality AVI file to disk without 2GB segmentation and output edited content to.mv4. If Roxio expects people to pay good money for the convenience and features of a fully developed app, at least it should work for the majority of users in the target market. OK, well there you have it Im sorry, you didnt say what particular device you have and my quick search show that the Canopus ADVC 100, 110, 300 and 55 all connect with Firewire I am sorry I was not able to read your mind The programs you cite dont work with all of the devices I have tried with them WinDV (freeware), for example, ONLY works with Firewire.
The reality is that all internal devices do have Drivers or they dont work! Whether those drivers were included in Windows (Partnered) or added separately makes no difference. And it is the Drivers that add or limit the utility of the device. The ONLY thing you can say for sure is that the Capture program that is included with your Device Will Work with that device Anything else that does work with it is a bonus Edited March 19, 2011 by JimHardin.
Well, Jim: 1) I identified the product in my first message. 2) Again, slowly, the Canopus hardware converters are inline hardware products that produce an AVC Compliant DV digital video stream via Firewire or analog connections.
They are recognized by the Windows LiveShow driver as AVC/Tape Recorder/Player. There is no device specific driver required other than a Windows OS and on newer machines the Windows Live Media suite which is available from Microsoft's web site for free.
This includes the Windows LiveShow driver in Live Photo Gallery on Windows 7. Earlier OSs have earlier versions of the driver. The Windows LiveShow capture tool in Windows Live Photo Gallery can capture the Canopus input fine. Works database converter (20052009 for mac download. This is what I am using now. However, the interface provides no options for choosing the compression level or codecs for the avi stream and Windows Movie Maker is just not very sophisticated as a video editor.
The Roxio capture tool apparently does not recognize the Windows LiveShow driver. That is my question. Your previous answers suggest that you have no knowledge of what you speak. The only reason I am making the effort to point this out is in hope that Roxio engineers will be made aware of the shortcoming and that I did not waste my money on this 'Pro' product.
The only reason I am making the effort to point this out is in hope that Roxio engineers will be made aware of the shortcoming and that I did not waste my money on this 'Pro' product. Perhaps you wasted you $$ on the Canopus device!
You should not need any device to capture a digital signal; you should be able to plug your camcorder directly into you Firewire port and capture the video. Yes, you would need to have an A/D converter for an analog input but perhaps your digital camcorder has the pass through option to do the conversion.
If worst comes to worst, you can capture with whatever works with that Canopus device and then do your editing in Video Wave and burn your project using Create DVD. Are you trying to burn high definition video for an AVCHD or Blu-ray disc?
I am not using a camcorder. Canopus is designed to bi-directionally process real time analog or digital video feeds to disk or back to screen via Firewire WITHOUT a hardware driver and without onboard software ripping. The Canopus product is identified as AVC/Tape Recorder/Player by Windows and works exactly as specified. Like I said, it is AVC Compliant DV.
Roxio capture even recognizes the device. It just fails to use the proper driver which is the same Windows LiveShow DV driver that would be used with any other camcorder. I just don't understand why a piece of software that is marketed as 'Pro' cannot access the default Windows driver. Yes, I am not impressed with Roxio Pro!
It just fails to use the proper driver which is the same Windows LiveShow DV driver that would be used with any other camcorder. What is 'Live Show'? Did you mean DirectShow which was the replacement for the earlier Video for Windows drivers?
As with many video capture devices, you should be using the software that came with the Canopus for capturing. Recognizing the driver API (which Roxio seems to do) is one thing and decoding the data from the device is another.
If the Canopus is an AVC device, there could be a licensing fee or perhaps Canopus is using a proprietary AVC encoder that needs the proprietary decoder. I am in the same boat. I upgraded from Creator 2010 to Creator 2011 hoping they had finally addressed the issue of the Canopus USING THE STANDARD WINDOWS & DRIVER.
Adobe Premier 9, Windows Live and others have no problrm recognizing and using the Canopus WITHOUT drivers. Creator offers the 'choice' of selecting the Canopus but then says 'Failed to setup system components for showing picture or sound' - something to do with 'Template Manager returning an error'. I submited this to support - I'll see what they say and report here. See attached error dialogs. I am in the same boat. I upgraded from Creator 2010 to Creator 2011 hoping they had finally addressed the issue of the Canopus USING THE STANDARD WINDOWS & DRIVER. Adobe Premier 9, Windows Live and others have no problrm recognizing and using the Canopus WITHOUT drivers.
Creator offers the 'choice' of selecting the Canopus but then says 'Failed to setup system components for showing picture or sound' - something to do with 'Template Manager returning an error'. I submited this to support - I'll see what they say and report here. See attached error dialogs.
I don't see any attached error dialogs, but it will be interesting to see what you find out from Roxio Support. I don't see any attached error dialogs, but it will be interesting to see what you find out from Roxio Support. ### Sorry about no attachment. I'll try this again with this post.
I will add this additional info too. Windows recognizes and displays an icon for the Canopus device in the Devices and Printers window. Looking in the System Properties/Device Manager: IEEE 1394 catagory I see my Dell Studio 8100 motherboard Firewire hardware is ID'd as a VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller. Further, under Imaging devices, I see 'AV/C Tape Recorder/Player. In other words, this is a fully installed and recognized Windows 7 1394 device - and all other apps have no problem with it. Roxio Creator 2011 says an input device must be a 'OHCI compliant IEEE 1394 Firewire card'. This little piece of Canopus hardware obviously responds to the required 1394 commands it is required to and operates in accordance with the specified protocols for a device of its class or other apps wouldn't like it either.
Roxio needs to FIX THIS. ### Sorry about no attachment. I'll try this again with this post. I will add this additional info too. Windows recognizes and displays an icon for the Canopus device in the Devices and Printers window. Looking in the System Properties/Device Manager: IEEE 1394 catagory I see my Dell Studio 8100 motherboard Firewire hardware is ID'd as a VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller.
Further, under Imaging devices, I see 'AV/C Tape Recorder/Player. In other words, this is a fully installed and recognized Windows 7 1394 device - and all other apps have no problem with it. Roxio Creator 2011 says an input device must be a 'OHCI compliant IEEE 1394 Firewire card'. This little piece of Canopus hardware obviously responds to the required 1394 commands it is required to and operates in accordance with the specified protocols for a device of its class or other apps wouldn't like it either.
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Roxio needs to FIX THIS. Perhaps I'm looking at the image incorrectly. It is not clear on what device you sellected. I see you have the Roxio USB device. Is the Roxio USB device the one for Creator 2010/2011? An earlier one may not work.
For my education only. What advantages are there to using the Canopus device over the USB device? Perhaps I'm looking at the image incorrectly. It is not clear on what device you selected. I see you have the Roxio USB device. Is the Roxio USB device the one for Creator 2010/2011?
An earlier one may not work. For my education only. What advantages are there to using the Canopus device over the USB device? ### I selected the 'AVC Compliant DV Device (Canopus) from the pop-down menu and that choice led to the two dialogs below that. The 3rd dialog was the result if hitting the 'Details' button in the 2nd dialog. The answer your other question 'Canopus device over the USB device?' : Yes, that is the USB device for the 2010/2011 which I bought when I got 2010.
Since the Roxio USB ONLY works with Roxio, and I wanted something that was Firewire to work with all the other video programs available (which I wanted to try). Why did I want to try other video programs??? Because Roxio keeps breaking as Windows evolves (for whatever reason) and I have to keep buying new Roxio versions to get them to work again. And sometimes, Roxio (despite claims) does NOT do everything that can be done. NO - complete de-install and clean re-install of the 'broken' Roxio version NEVER fixes what breaks - and yet - the new version DOES work again?!?!????
To return to the POINT. WHY can't the advertized feature THAT I PAID FOR, in yet ANOTHER upgrade - (again)- WORK?????
the upper case does not signify 'yelling' as in social blogs - I just use it for emphasis of the keywords -:-) Thanks for responding to my issue! Well -here is the reply I got back from Roxio tech support about using Canopus: 'I could see that you are using a different video capture device with the Roxio product. But its possible only to use Roxio Video capture USB with Roxio products. For further assistance, please feel free to get back to us.'
This hardly makes sense since according to everyone most 1394 DV cameras work fine (my Panasonic does). Also, my WEB cam (both built- in my monitor and a plug-in external Logitech work just fine. Well -here is the reply I got back from Roxio tech support about using Canopus: 'I could see that you are using a different video capture device with the Roxio product. But its possible only to use Roxio Video capture USB with Roxio products.
For further assistance, please feel free to get back to us.' This hardly makes sense since according to everyone most 1394 DV cameras work fine (my Panasonic does). Also, my WEB cam (both built- in my monitor and a plug-in external Logitech work just fine. 1) Punt 2) Get the Roxio USB device 3) Capture with other software (Windows) and then do your editing in Creator. Speaking of editing in Creator, I think I something has changed about Videowave in 2011 or I am just confused. I edit a captured.avi stream from the Canopus and it works for what I usually ONLY want to do -trim the start/end points. If I capture an.avi from Canopus, convert it to.mpg (DVD standard quality with Roxio), then try to edit the end points, it won't do it.
Upon further investigation, I find I can't change the start/end points in ANY.mpg I have done previously - even with Roxio USB capture. Isn't Videowave supposed to edit.mpg - not just 'raw'.avi streams? In this question, I REALLY am only interested in the start/end trimming tool at this time. Speaking of editing in Creator, I think I something has changed about Videowave in 2011 or I am just confused. I edit a captured.avi stream from the Canopus and it works for what I usually ONLY want to do -trim the start/end points. If I capture an.avi from Canopus, convert it to.mpg (DVD standard quality with Roxio), then try to edit the end points, it won't do it. Upon further investigation, I find I can't change the start/end points in ANY.mpg I have done previously - even with Roxio USB capture.
Isn't Videowave supposed to edit.mpg - not just 'raw'.avi streams? In this question, I REALLY am only interested in the start/end trimming tool at this time. Yes, Creator 2011 will work with many different formats including AVI (except DivX/Xvid avi files). Why are you converting? You should be able to just drop the avi file into video wave or video copy and convert. Here are the supported formats: Video: AVI, DV, HDV, DV-AVI, MPEG-1/2/4, MPEG2-HD, DVD-Video, IFO/VOB, XviD, DVR-MS, TiVo, ASF, MOV, WMV, QuickTime, 3GP, MPEG2 Transport Stream, AVC (H.264), AVCHD, MKV Now to the problem at hand. Turn off (not just pause) your anti-virus, put the program disc back into your computer and select repair when the options show.
Let us know how that works out. It is possible that something got broken when trying to use the Canopus device with Roxio. The old problem of brevity vs.
Informationshould be as brief as possible but no briefer than necessary to convey themeaning! You are inferring that I do all sorts of conversions and operations for noapparent reason (or necessity). Not the case! These are steps I did to TESTcertain behaviors. I needed an.mpg file, so I made one from an.avi I happenedto have captured previously. Then I found out C2011 couldn't trimthe start/end. In the.avi - it could.
Here is another bit of info that might help. The one thing I noticed about theRoxio capture that Adobe Preview did not have was the ability to capture in.mpg (DVD) format rather than.avi.
This saves disk space like crazy and itfine if all you want to do is trim the start/end of a VCR tape after capturebefore burning to DVD. I found that C2011 won't trim the.mpgs!
- just the.avi's. Maybe this might help too.
I may be new to this forum but not to the world oftechnology. 40 years in computer science, engineering and image processing andcompression standards development and a previous member of the USB and Firewirestandards drafts groups. Retired now, but still chugging away doing my ownthing. The old problem of brevity vs. Informationshould be as brief as possible but no briefer than necessary to convey themeaning! You are inferring that I do all sorts of conversions and operations for noapparent reason (or necessity).
Not the case! These are steps I did to TESTcertain behaviors. I needed an.mpg file, so I made one from an.avi I happenedto have captured previously.
Then I found out C2011 couldn't trimthe start/end. In the.avi - it could. Here is another bit of info that might help. The one thing I noticed about theRoxio capture that Adobe Preview did not have was the ability to capture in.mpg (DVD) format rather than.avi.
This saves disk space like crazy and itfine if all you want to do is trim the start/end of a VCR tape after capturebefore burning to DVD. I found that C2011 won't trim the.mpgs! - just the.avi's. Maybe this might help too. I may be new to this forum but not to the world oftechnology. 40 years in computer science, engineering and image processing andcompression standards development and a previous member of the USB and Firewirestandards drafts groups.
Retired now, but still chugging away doing my ownthing. Is the image in the center of that window missing with mpg2 files? Do you see the two small images on the left and right side? If that center image is missing, there have been several complaints about that bit no one knows the cause.
It seemed to come with some sort of Windows update. Hve you tried using Video Copy and Convert to trim either the avi or the mpg2 files? Edited June 13, 2011 by sknis.
Is the image in the center of that window missing with mpg2 files? Do you see the two small images on the left and right side? If that center image is missing, there have been several complaints about that bit no one knows the cause. It seemed to come with some sort of Windows update.
Hve you tried using Video Copy and Convert to trim either the avi or the mpg2 files? VERY INTERESTING! You have come up with some very good stuff!
When I add the video thru the Add Content menu (upper left just under the File/Edit etc. Menus) the.mpg loads but won't trim-edit proprley. When I navigate to the same movie on the right under the Media Selector tab-menu, the file does NOT show up in the center, lower left or on the right - just as you indicated it might not. BUT - MORE IMPORTANTLY (to me) - I never noticed that Copy and Convert had the TRIM tool icon.
AND, the TRIM tool is much more capable than the one in Advance Video Edit under Videowave. You can not only set the start and end but clip out intermediate sections - all in one step - during the copy/convert process.
Discovering THIS feature makes my day. I haven't had a chance to robust-test it with more than one file as yet, but if it proves reliable, it is golden for my needs.
I'll report back after a bit. Thanks again for responding to my threads. VERY INTERESTING! You have come up with some very good stuff! When I add the video thru the Add Content menu (upper left just under the File/Edit etc. Menus) the.mpg loads but won't trim-edit proprley.
When I navigate to the same movie on the right under the Media Selector tab-menu, the file does NOT show up in the center, lower left or on the right - just as you indicated it might not. BUT - MORE IMPORTANTLY (to me) - I never noticed that Copy and Convert had the TRIM tool icon. AND, the TRIM tool is much more capable than the one in Advance Video Edit under Videowave. You can not only set the start and end but clip out intermediate sections - all in one step - during the copy/convert process. Discovering THIS feature makes my day. I haven't had a chance to robust-test it with more than one file as yet, but if it proves reliable, it is golden for my needs.
I'll report back after a bit. Thanks again for responding to my threads. I have my fingers (and eyes) crossed!